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Surprise for Ze!
  • Please see quote below for updated project instructions: 
    saera said:

    saera said:

    ***ANOTHER 'Nother UPDATE/Resummarization***

    To summarize/clarify for anyone new:

    We are going to make a video with a re-narration of An Invocation for Beginnings.

    We have now filled all the image slots for part 1 of this project.
    If you signed up for an image, remember to send them to InvocationPictures(at)gmail.com by FRIDAY NIGHT (July 27th EST)

    Part 2

    We have also filled all the audio slots for part 2.

    To submit an audio file, go to This Link

    sign up for a word/phrase

    record yourself saying the words (preferably in the same pacing as Ze uses in his video)

    then upload your part to This Place using 
     
    username: zefrank@flohs-daten
    password: invocations

    make sure to number your part so floh knows what order to put it 

    and be sure to submit your audio no later than TUESDAY July 24th 
    Part 3 is still open!

    Anyone who wasn't able to get a part in the first two sections of this project (or just feels like submitting extra):

    record yourself saying "Let's start this shit up" (same pacing as Ze, so we sound like we're saying it together)
    Then send the file to desilix(at)gmail.com with your username.
    make sure to put something in the subject line so I know you're not a bot.
    again, best formats are MP3, WAV, and AIFF.

    NEW DEADLINE for ALL AUDIO submissions: 
    TODAY, Tuesday the 24h of July
    No later than 6pm EST (GMT-5)
    Heads up: If you do not submit your audio by

    TONIGHT at 6pm EST, your part will be

    RE-ASSIGNED.
    I hope that catches y'alls eyes because I don't want anyone to feel cheated or left out or anything... I mean, it's pretty hard to miss now, right? Can't say we didn't warn you........!


  • Make a song for him? He's always making songs for people, maybe we should make one for him.
  • songs are good. 
    we can use @Alexbien 's idea for a collab poem as the lyrics. 
    but how to line everything up? 
    we won't have a backing track like in misternorman's missions..
    also maybe we could include a visual aspect.. like pictures or drawing or something along those lines? 
    maybe even turn it into a really short video?

  • "A Week Away From Ze"

    working title
  • Ohhh! HOLD ON FOLKS...I'm working on something amazing. Gimme like 10 minutes.
  • I like "A Week Away From Ze" 
  • Ok, done. Go check out "FILDI. A surprise for Ze." on the boards and tell me what you think!
  • Maybe we could do something involving photos or videos of us having a "stay-cation" while Ze is away on his vacation. Look for some unique and fun ways to chase that happy in our own towns. Might be a good way to get to know each other too. Whadaya think?
  • Thanks! Now go pick your phrase!
  • Done. I chose "let me enjoy this" So excited!
  • okaybutso

    sound

    what do you think?

    music 
    or what?
    (if its music it'll be easier to sync up :p )

    i've got audacity, and i'm not to shabby with it, so i could put that together unless someone else is 
    more skilled/has a better program/dying to be the one to do it?
  • I was planning t sync it up to the audio from the video, but music is a great idea.
  • i figured more people could join in with the music, i don't know. just an idea. 
    still tricky though.. if it doesn't work out i still like the idea of ze's audio over the pictures.
  • And in the background, the song can be playing while Ze speaks? :D
  • I like it. This is getting better and better!
  • Great idea! I'm in!

    I am not too bad on the piano, have a ridiculous amount of recording options (microphones etc.) and own Apple's Logic Studio. So I might be able to produce some music.

    Any closer ideas on which direction this is supposed to take? Should I take Ze's voice and "autotune" a song from it? Should we try to sing it ourselves?

    Uh, I just realized that there is music playing in the "Invocations" video in the background for most of the time. Might be hard to get out, but not impossible...
  • @NorthernRedwood I've signed up for your idea. Can you copy/paste it here and I can edit my first post and quote it?  


    More than one surprise is ok!  Let's do a song too!
  • @floh I play violin and viola, not like stunningly or anything, but not bad either. 

    point though, what do you guys think about vocals? 

    should we put some lyrics together, sing/speak the phrases from the video, or just stick to backgroundy type music so there're no words to sync up?

  • Here ya go:

    Checklist item #20  was "and maybe make a surprise for me?"

    Since we love to take pictures and to show Ze all the places we're from, I propose a picture form of the Invocation.

    The "Invocation" is from the first video of A Show. You can watch it again here: http://youtu.be/RYlCVwxoL_g

    There
    are 598 words that break down into a little over 50 phrases to the
    invocation. Between a bunch of us, I think we can do this. Pick your
    favorite phrase  (don't be greedy) and take pictures of each one. Team
    up! It can be on a piece of paper or written in the sky, but we need every word to have an accompanying picture.

    To make sure we don't have any duplicates, go here: http://www.doodle.com/kg3wgkree54d32ws
    and pick a phrase by ticking it off the list. Once you've done that and
    taken your picture, send it here: InvocationPictures@gmail.com with
    your words in the title.

    When all the words are submitted, they
    will be put into a video with, hopefully, Ze's voice from the invocation
    reading them out. Pictures need to be in by Friday night (July 27) The
    video will be done by July 29th at midnight...I hope. Check back for a
    preview.
  • @saera Do you have something to record with? A microphone or pick-up for your instruments? A violin could sound awesome!

    I can play guitar, piano, drums/percussion and (if no one else has a better way) provide a bass from my E-piano... But I lack melody instruments, so you fit right in.

    I could try tomorrow to extract the "pure" speech from Ze's video, without the background music. That would be auto-tunable into a song, the current version isn't...

    It's midnight here right now, so I guess I'll see what you guys think by tomorrow or if you are going any other direction.

    I'm not great at drawing, but I'll do what I can. I have a video camera though, and some pretty good software for video editing and music... So I'll gladly help with any technical issues that arise.

    PS: This community is amazing! :o)
  • @floh, yes, I've got a yeti mic, it's pretty fantastic ^.^

    if you are able to isolate ze's voice we could use that for the focal point and build everything else around it.

    strings are just as good at being in the background as the foreground (take coldplay and red for instance haha)

    I'm all excited now :D

  • Maybe I'm thinking back to The Show too much, but how about a script for a show, like Fabuloso Friday? Or we could make our own show, write a script and have various people record segments of it.
  • @saera Great! I actually have some time tomorrow evening and on Sunday. So I hope I'll have something to send you by Sunday evening. I don't know where you are from, but that may actually be around noon for you. That will give you an idea of what I'm going for (not that I have that idea yet...), and you can think of some nice melodies and additions while I tweak the song a little more.

    I'm hoping to have in done by the middle of next week to give the editors something to work with...
  • @floh sounds good. I'm GMT-7 by the way.
  • @LTJPunkass I wasn't around for "The show", but my first goto-idea was also to make a show of our own. That's very hard to organize on a forum though... You have to agree on a subject and then can't really parallelize the scripting, which is the most work. Filming and editing would surely be unproblematic, so if you have a great idea or get some people to write a script, I would do my part in it.

    I still like the idea of adapting the "Invocations" video and am gonna throw myself at the music. Hehe, haven't done that in a while...
  • @saera Just as I thought, I'm GMT+1... :o) I'll contact you again soon.
  • I just played around with the sound from the "Invocations" video. And let's just say: Isolating Ze's voice is a real challenge... I phase-inverted and added both channels, which basically only leaves the sound that is in the very center of the mix, every instrument shifted to the left or the right will cancel out. That's how some programs can do "Karaoke" versions of songs, just in reverse. In addition, I played a little with an equalizer to get rid of some of the very present notes in the background.

    Well, let's just say this track was not made to be seperated. You can listen to the result here. Yes, the music is a little more in the background, but it is still so noticeable that I wouldn't dare to make this into a song.

    If we want to stick to the "Invocations" video (almost all others don't have music in the background), I see three options:

    1. We take the original soundtrack and just add our drawings
    2. I record a complete and simple song from the given "lyrics". I upload it and anyone who wants can sing or play along (kind of like with Mr. Norman, but less elaborate...)
    3. We do something completely different.

    I'm not really happy with either option. Taking the original sound is not as creative and surprising as we can get, and recording a complete new version leaves so very little of Ze in there. What do you think?
  • another idea so it isn't just @floh and i with the music

    anyone else who wants to make some pretty noise to go with the track can email desilix(at)gmail.com

    make sure to put something recognizable in the subject line.
    maybe also include your ashow username in the message, just to keep things straight.

    i will forward whatever floh sends me (and whatever i come up with) to you as soon as i've got something

    then make your music-y sounds 
    and send them back as soon as possible (maybe by wednesday as a tentative date??) so we can figure how to work it in.

    sound okay?
  • didn't see your post til after i posted, floh

    what if we have people read out the phrases from invocation and send those instead of music?
    that way we can keep the music simple but everyone can have a word?

    ze's words are what smacks us in the heart places anyway
  • I like the idea of people saying the words. I mean, everybody's picking a phrase anyways, can't they just record themselves saying it out as well? Even if it's just on their computers' webcams...

    We could then show the drawn pictures, add the talking faces in a small window and play some music for the back.

    Or we do the recording thing with music: I record a simple enough song, and everyone films him-/herself singing their line. We can then take out my first recording and have everyone just sing instead of talk...

    You are right that the words are what makes Ze's videos so very special. Although in that case, I probably would not have picked the "invocations" one... :o)
  • Uh, almost 2 am here, I should go to bed. I'll read what people's opinions on things are and will be back tomorrow evening... :o)
  • okay, how about this.

    we'll need another doodle thing (i've never made one so... @NorthernRedwood if you wouldn't mind creating another one, just like the one you already made but i guess with more parts? )

    we can have people sign up for a word/phrase
    (hopefully not just people who've signed up for a picture already, but whatever :p)

    and then you all record your parts 

    (maybe following ze's pacing but just your voice 
    so NothernRedwood will have an idea about how fast to have the images)  

    then send them to me at desilix(at)gmail.com 

    and i'll send that to floh with whatever i come up with 

    and then when the track is finished it'll all go to NorthernRedwood again for the final video

    better?

  • I can dig it. Same phrases for the voices? Or by words this time? There are 958 words in the invocation, so a lot more people, but it would be epic.
  • i dunno if we can get 958 people to do it..
    maybe make it 100 parts, instead of 52 so more people can join in?

    geez, i don't even know if we can get 100 people.. well we can double up if we have any gaps, i guess.

    so yeah, maybe 100 parts?



  • Yeah, let's go with words! For two reasons:

    1. More people can participate.

    2. It's easier to make kind of a song from it.

    One condition: I would love to have the recordings by Tuesday evening, since I'm on a camping trip starting on Thursday, and that would give me just Wednesday to make a song out of them... To not overflow anyone's Mailbox, what do you think of the following: Go to mydrive and login with username "zefrank@flohs-daten" and password "invocations" and you can upload stuff. Maybe name it appropriately for an easier sorting? A 3-digit-number at the beginning to identify the word would be perfect...

    So, @NorthernRedwood will make the doodle? Thanks!
  • 100 parts would be fine, too. I would rather go with seperate word though. Maybe people can pick more than one word? You can easily do that on doodle...

    I personally would have no problem recording me saying 20 seperate words... just in case too few people would participate. I have yet to find out how many active users there are on this forum...
  • well that was a throwaway email that i gave, but that works too.


    Okay, just to summarize/clarify for anyone new:


    We are going to make a video with a song.


    To submit an image go to This Link and pick a phrase to take a picture/create an image of.
    When you've got your image send it to InvocationPictures(at)gmail.com

    be sure to submit by FRIDAY NIGHT (July 27th Eastern Standard Time or -5:00GMT)


    To submit an audio file, go to This Link

    sign up for a word/phrase

    record yourself saying the words (preferably in the same pacing as Ze uses in his video)

    then upload your part to This Place using 
     
    username: zefrank@flohs-daten
    password: invocations

    make sure to number your part so floh knows what order to put it 

    and be sure to submit your audio no later than TUESDAY EVENING July 24th 
    (we'll say 5:00 pm GMT +1 to keep it simple)


    that's the gist of it.
  • Right. Doodle on the way.

    EDIT: I think I might go made making 958 boxes to check to I'm breaking them up into 2 or 3 word phrases.

    @saera Here's the doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/gcdydettihtdirvk

    There are 262 options for this one!
  • that'll be fine
    again, if we end up with gaps we can just have people double up 
  • okay, perfect
  • So, final version I think:
    saera said:


    To summarize/clarify for anyone new:


    We are going to make a video with a song re-narration of An Invocation for Beginnings.


    To submit an image go to This Link and pick a phrase to take a picture/create an image of.
    When you've got your image send it to InvocationPictures(at)gmail.com

    be sure to submit by FRIDAY NIGHT (July 27th Eastern Standard Time or -5:00GMT)


    To submit an audio file, go to This Link

    sign up for a word/phrase

    record yourself saying the words (preferably in the same pacing as Ze uses in his video)

    then upload your part to This Place using 
     
    username: zefrank@flohs-daten
    password: invocations

    make sure to number your part so floh knows what order to put it 

    and be sure to submit your audio no later than TUESDAY EVENING July 24th 
    (we'll say 5:00 pm GMT +1 [or Noon EST] to keep it simple)


    that's the gist of it.
  • Sweet. I amended my original thread to include all the new directions and links. This is gonna be amazing when it's done.
  • I just added my recordings. If I did it wrong or anything needs rerecording please let me know.
  • I selected the audio clips for the same section I did the pic for.  I hope that's ok; it just seemed easier to match timbre with a phrase versus one word.  If there's an abundance of participants, I can uncheck a few words and re-record.  
  • Can I still participate in this? The doodlebug website keeps crashing my iPad browser, but if I can still take a pic of an invocation phrase about not being able to take credit for how my actions are perceived?
  • @leesienhauer there are four left; "And when I get that feeling in my" , "Let me remember that the unintended meaning that people project on to what I do is neither my fault or something I can take credit for" , "but he’s a little bit of an asshole and noone invites him to their pool parties." and "and if it is, let me become fascinated by the shape of the stone"

    which one?
  • @leesienhauer if you can't get an image you will probably still be able to get a phrase to say; there are A LOT of open spots there.
  • "Let me remember that the unintended meaning that people project on to what I do is neither my fault or something I can take credit for"



    This one! Thanks.

    I don't know that I have the proper equipment for recording... But I'll investigate the possibility this weekend.

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